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		<description><![CDATA[I see religion  more as a program for daily living. People can make up their own religions  according to their needs. Brush your teeth, clean the bath, help sick people, read books, and so on. An understanding of God is not always necessary. If your religion brings you peace and joy and does [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=paulscave.wordpress.com&blog=4780983&post=1117&subd=paulscave&ref=&feed=1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>I see religion  more as a program for daily living. People can make up their own religions  according to their needs. Brush your teeth, clean the bath, help sick people, read books, and so on. An understanding of God is not always necessary. If your religion brings you peace and joy and does not hurt anyone else, then go for it.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;">I find many  organized religions are HEAVY on the theory, but, LIGHT on the practice.  If God is part of the religion, God can be whatever you choose it to be. It could be just nature itself, easy to see and get in touch with.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;">A few non Supernatural  defentions of  Religion.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;">1. a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;">2. INFORMAL an activity which someone is extremely enthusiastic about and does regularly:</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;">3.any object of conscientious regard and pursuit</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;">4. to resolve to mend one\&#8217;s errant ways: The company got religion and stopped making dangerous products.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0;">To be religious, one is not obligated to believe in the supernatural.  </p>
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Notice From the Property owner
ATTENTION
To all members of the
JEHOVAH&#8217;S Witnesses and the MORMONS  Groups
You are not welcome at this address
Please leave immediately
Do not knock on any doors, or make any vocal comments,
and do not leave any literature behind when you leave.
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<p>**********</p>
<p align="CENTER">Notice From the Property owner</p>
<p align="CENTER">ATTENTION</p>
<p align="CENTER">To all members of the</p>
<p align="CENTER">JEHOVAH&#8217;S Witnesses and the MORMONS  Groups</p>
<p align="CENTER">You are not welcome at this address</p>
<p align="CENTER">Please leave immediately</p>
<p align="CENTER">Do not knock on any doors, or make any vocal comments,</p>
<p align="CENTER">and do not leave any literature behind when you leave.</p>
<p align="CENTER">This is a private property, and as such We  have a right to privacy.</p>
<p align="CENTER">If you do not respect our rights,</p>
<p align="CENTER">We will call the police and charge you with Harassment and trespassing</p>
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<p style="margin-left:.2in;margin-bottom:0;"><a href="#0.1.My History|outline">My 	History</a> 1</p>
<p style="margin-left:.2in;margin-bottom:0;"><a href="#0.2.Systematic Harassment |outline">Systematic 	Harassment </a> 2</p>
<p style="margin-left:.2in;margin-bottom:0;"><a href="#0.3.Right to Privacy|outline">Right 	to Privacy</a> 2</p>
<p style="margin-left:.2in;margin-bottom:0;"><a href="#0.4.The Last Visit|outline">The 	Last Visit</a> 2</p>
<p style="margin-left:.2in;margin-bottom:0;"><a href="#0.5.Toe the line or be Shunned|outline">Toe 	the line or be Shunned</a> 3</p>
<p style="margin-left:.2in;margin-bottom:0;"><a href="#0.6.The Answer is Still NO|outline">The 	Answer is Still NO</a> 3</p>
<p style="margin-left:.2in;margin-bottom:0;"><a href="#0.7.A Poll|outline">A 	Poll</a> 4</p>
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<h2><a name="0.1.My History|outline"></a>My History</h2>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">*. After 13 years of being systemically harassed by the Jw&#8217;s and the Mormons, I have had enough. They keep coming and coming. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">*. I  tell them no, but to them no means yes. What part of “NO” do they not understand?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">*. If I talk to them, they will not listen. They seem convinced that the world is coming to and end (Armageddon), and the only way to be saved is to join their group and become a JW. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">*. If I slam the  door shut,  they will put me on their  &#8216;call back&#8221;  list. In weeks they are back. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">*. If I slam the door shut again, I will once more be put back on the &#8216;call back list&#8217; and they will be back, sometimes in day, but never longer than three months. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">*.No end in sight. Just endless consistent harassment, with one single goal, and that is to recruit me as a member of the watchtower society.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">*. If I do not answer the door, I get put on the &#8216;Not Home, call back list&#8217;  and they are back in a week.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">*. If I  am sitting at the window in plain view, (my chair is is plain view of my front door, and I do have a very large picture window, about 6 foot from my front door), and  it is obvious to me that they can see me, I can hear them talking out loud, &#8216;Oh , I guess he is not home&#8217;, Which also means that I get put back onto the &#8216;Call Back list&#8217;.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">*. The last straw was when they came around to my back door. This is right by my bedroom window which was open and the blinds were up, and I was buck naked sleeping in what I thought  &#8216; was the  Privacy of my own home&#8217;.  Wrong! Knock, Knock, Knock. I had to get dressed and open the door, even thou they saw that I was in the room. They could not have missed seeing  me, and why would they bother a naked man, who is lying on his bed, getting some sleep because he works night shift??? It boggles my mind.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">*. So I  chase them off and I think that is it, they finally got the message. One week later they are back at my front door. By now I am thinking  of getting a can of spray paint and marking these neighborhood &#8216;PESTS&#8221; with a big red X across the chest. IT is either that or just punch their lights out. That is when I thought of a quieter method. THE SIGN.</span></p>
<h2><a name="0.2.Systematic Harassment |outline"></a>Systematic Harassment</h2>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">Systematic Harassment is how the Watchtower Society  try and get new recruits to join their fold.  They believe that the world is going to end soon, and  (in their minds) the most important thing for them is to help as many people as they can to get into heaven. They are not Bad people, just a little messed up inside.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">Never have I seen a happy JW at my front door. </span></p>
<h2><a name="0.3.Right to Privacy|outline"></a>Right to Privacy</h2>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">I have a right to my privacy. I do not need to make any excuses why I do not want to talk to J W&#8217;s.  I have  politely said no, over 100 times.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">What part of no do you not get?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">Now with my sign, they still come to my door, but they do not knock, they leave. Great, now I can get some sleep? I think I might have to move the sign from the door to the road, in this way they will not even step foot on my property.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">In any case, If they ever bother me again I WILL charge them to the full extent of the law. I will photograph their faces, and the car they came from and the law will hunt them down, and do the rest.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">It is no longer a case of a few individuals playing a game of knock knock. I was even thinking of starting a class action law suit, (or something along that line),  which would eventually forbid religious door knocking.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;">Telemarketers  were also at one time a problem, but now that I am on the </span></span></span></span></span><a href="https://www.lnnte-dncl.gc.ca/index-eng" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size:small;">national do not call list</span></span></a><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:normal;"><span style="font-weight:normal;">, I rarely get a bothersome phone call. It may end up the same way with the J W&#8217;s</span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">Note: the Mormons come around once and a while, but not near as fanatically as the J W&#8217;s</span></p>
<h2><a name="0.4.The Last Visit|outline"></a>The Last Visit</h2>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">Just recently I was washing my car in the driveway. Two J&#8217;s approached me. They did not see my sign because they headed straight for me, ( so I did not call the police. Remember I mentioned putting the sign on the road?) ( But imagine also a road littered with No Trespassing, No J W&#8217;s, No this and No that?) . I opened the dialog and the conversation went like this.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">Me: &#8216;Come on guys. The answer is no&#8217;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">J W&#8217;s: &#8216;So you are not interested?&#8217;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">Me: &#8216;How many times have you been to this house?&#8217;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">J W&#8217;s: &#8216;This is my first time&#8217;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">Me: &#8216;How many times has your organization been to this house?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">J&#8217;s: &#8216;I haven&#8217;t got a clue&#8217;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">Me: &#8216;Well that is your problem then. You haven&#8217;t got a clue. Go back and find out just how many times that this address has been visited by your organization Then come back. You guys are actually systematical harassing the neighborhood. You haven&#8217;t got a clue? So then, If you haven&#8217;t got a clue about a simple thing like that, how can we even begin to have an intelligent conversation Go to my front door and read the sign.&#8217;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">Then they left and read the sign</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">This guy was just thinking from his own  Selfish Point Of View. He saw the visit as an innocent step in his preserving his status as a member of the J&#8217;s He really had no idea that he was “NOT the FIRST&#8217; but, in my 13 years or residence here, was in fact closer to the #100 th. To him it was a virgin visit, to me I was like the Whore who had seen many virgins.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">Consider the Damage that the Watchtower Society has caused me;<em> </em><em><strong>enough to write this post. Just one JW at at time.</strong></em></span></p>
<h2><a name="0.5.Toe the line or be Shunned|outline"></a> Toe the line or be Shunned</h2>
<p><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size:small;">But the JW  leaders use a method of hate to promote love. When a JW does not engage in door knocking, he/she will be <a href="http://www.xjw.com/shunning.html">shunned</a> by the society. That in turn will be in effect Rejection. Or Hate. </span></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size:small;">Here is a good site, written by an ex-JW,  that explains the process of shunning.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size:small;"><a href="http://spiritualbrother.blogspot.com/2009/04/shunning-study-in-punishment.html">http://spiritualbrother.blogspot.com/2009/04/shunning-study-in-punishment.html</a> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size:small;">I found this site to be a great source of Ex=Jw&#8217;s comments.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size:small;"><a href="http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/">http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/</a> </span></span></p>
<p>A person who is seeking love or acceptance and has only found this one outlet for acceptance, (IE the watchtower society), will be subject to a power struggle. Either you toe the line, and fulfill the membership requirements, or you are out on the street on your own. If you do as the leaders  tell you, you are promised  love and acceptance, if you do not, then you  will be rejected or (hated).</p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">But  love will be reserved for you, when you finally toe the line. In effect there is only one way to love and that is to do as you are told. This idea-logical slavery.  Insanity has never been easier to see than by watching the Jw&#8217;s in action. So who is going to educate these poor lost souls? </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">This blog of mine, (hopefully can shed some light to the human madness) but I doubt if it will ever make much of a difference.</span></p>
<h2><a name="0.6.The Answer is Still NO|outline"></a>The Answer is Still NO</h2>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">If the Jw&#8217;s come to my door 1000 times more, the answer will be no. I will never Join the Jehovah&#8217;s Witness Group. I will Never become a Member, Ever. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">But why do they come? It is because if they do not, they will be rejected by their own society, and they need this society because they are dependent upon other human beings, and a group, to feel acceptance and love. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">To be rejected at the door to door level is not that important. To be rejected at the group level is more severe. The Herd instinct, is , that people need people. . Power and security lies in numbers. To be cast out of the herd would mean certain death. And many suicides have had their origin with the J W&#8217;s.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size:small;"><a href="http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/113755/1/Another-JW-Suicide">http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/113755/1/Another-JW-Suicide</a> </span></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">J W&#8217;s reject the very people who depend upon them.</span></p>
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<h2><a name="0.7.A Poll|outline"></a>A Poll</h2>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">I believe that a Private Residence is a sanctuary. There are no business hours that can be placed upon a persons privacy. Some of us have to work, while others need to sleep. The 9-5 business model does not work anymore.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">The Jw&#8217;s, in particular do not respect our privacy. They feel that they can bother us as much as they want, during regular business hours. The problem is that there are no such hours.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:small;">This Post has received more responses  in a shorter time, than all my other posts combined. So I have decided to make a poll.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:small;">Poll Question:</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:normal;"><span style="font-weight:normal;">Do you support a Law or other measures, that would restrict Organizations such as the&#8230;</span></span></span></span></span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporations_of_Jehovah's_Witnesses"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size:small;">Watchtower Corporation &#8230;</span></span></a><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-style:normal;"><span style="font-weight:normal;">From systematically harassing private Homes? </span></span></span></span></span></p>
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I was listening to a old music recording today called Turn Turn Turn by the Byrds. 1965.
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The lyrics come  from the bible passages of Ecclesiastes 3
I thought that since I am studying the mind of the atheist right now, that this bit could add another log to that fire.
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<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">I was listening to a old music recording today called Turn Turn Turn by the Byrds. 1965.</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">Video here:</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://paulscave.wordpress.com/2009/04/06/a-time-for-every-season/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/aNopQq5lWqQ/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></span></span></span></p>
<p style="widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-style:normal;"><span style="font-weight:normal;">The lyrics come  from the bible passages of <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=25&amp;chapter=3&amp;version=31&amp;context=chapter">Ecclesiastes 3</a></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">I thought that since I am studying the mind of the atheist right now, that this bit could add another log to that fire.</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">&#8220;&#8221; 3 a time to kill and a time to heal,<br />
a time to tear down and a time to build,&#8221;"</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">A time to Kill??   they will love that. And the Christians will never be able to argue with the infallible word of god. Yet I am not at war with these words or any other. I am just a student.</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">But I still like this song today. I am by no means a hard core dogma preacher nor am I an rebel without a cause. But the early 60&#8217;s did rock my world, and I like to think that at least some of what I am today had its roots in the bible, and songs like this.</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">Here is the Bible text that that  the lyrics came form.</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">1 There is a time for everything,<br />
and a season for every activity under heaven:</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">2 a time to be born and a time to die,<br />
a time to plant and a time to uproot,</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">3 a time to kill and a time to heal,<br />
a time to tear down and a time to build,</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">4 a time to weep and a time to laugh,<br />
a time to mourn and a time to dance,</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,<br />
a time to embrace and a time to refrain,</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">6 a time to search and a time to give up,<br />
a time to keep and a time to throw away,</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">7 a time to tear and a time to mend,<br />
a time to be silent and a time to speak,</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">8 a time to love and a time to hate,<br />
a time for war and a time for peace.</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">9 What does the worker gain from his toil? 10 I have seen the burden God has laid on men. 11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end. 12 I know that there is nothing better for men than to be happy and do good while they live. 13 That everyone may eat and drink, and find satisfaction in all his toil—this is the gift of God. 14 I know that everything God does will endure forever; nothing can be added to it and nothing taken from it. God does it so that men will revere him.</span></span></span></p>
<p style="widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-style:normal;"><span style="font-weight:normal;">15 Whatever is has already been,<br />
and what will be has been before;<br />
and God will call the past to account. [<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=25&amp;chapter=3&amp;version=31#fen-NIV-17375a">a</a>]</span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">16 And I saw something else under the sun:<br />
In the place of judgment—wickedness was there,<br />
in the place of justice—wickedness was there.</span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">17 I thought in my heart,<br />
&#8220;God will bring to judgment<br />
both the righteous and the wicked,<br />
for there will be a time for every activity,<br />
a time for every deed.&#8221;</span></span></span></p>
<p style="widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-style:normal;"><span style="font-weight:normal;">18 I also thought, &#8220;As for men, God tests them so that they may see that they are like the animals. 19 Man&#8217;s fate is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath [<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=25&amp;chapter=3&amp;version=31#fen-NIV-17379b">b</a>]; man has no advantage over the animal. Everything is meaningless. 20 All go to the same place; all come from dust, and to dust all return. 21 Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward and if the spirit of the animal [<a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=25&amp;chapter=3&amp;version=31#fen-NIV-17381c">c</a>] goes down into the earth?&#8221;</span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p style="font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;widows:2;orphans:2;"><span style="color:#000000;"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-size:medium;">22 So I saw that there is nothing better for a man than to enjoy his work, because that is his lot. For who can bring him to see what will happen after him?</span></span></span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Intro to Defining things:
Describe the taste of chicken.  Those who have eaten chicken know for certain what it tastes like, and, given a taste test between chicken and a banana, would most likely be able to tell the difference between the two.
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<p>Describe the taste of chicken.  Those who have eaten chicken know for certain what it tastes like, and, given a taste test between chicken and a banana, would most likely be able to tell the difference between the two.</p>
<p>But to define the taste of chicken by saying that chicken does not taste like a banana, does not describe what it actually tastes like, you are only saying what it does not taste like.  The best way to find out for yourself what chicken tastes like is to go and eat some.</p>
<p>But what about god? Can anyone really describe with accuracy the concept of god?  To those who claim to know god, the explanations may seem simple to understand, especially to others who have had the same experience. But what of those who have no concept at all of god, for e.g. the atheist?</p>
<p>With the atheist,  it may be impossible  to get them to understand a concept of god. It might be easier to describe taste of sound. The concept of god is just too abstract for some people, to make any sense.  Some concepts are impossible to grasp, but some others are a little more palatable, (so to speak)</p>
<p><strong>My Favorite Definitions of God:</strong></p>
<p><strong>1&gt; </strong><strong>God is absolute Reality.</strong></p>
<p>Reality, being the sum total of all its parts, Including all and excluding none.<br />
Then realize that human beings can only comprehend a small portion of that reality, and that different people are tuned into different parts of this reality. Example, a blind man will comprehend light differently than someone with good eyesight.<br />
Then I recognize that ‘thought’ is also a part of reality, and that God, need exist no where else but in ones own thoughts, or mind. (that god does exist in the hearts and minds of people, but is not limited to that space alone.)</p>
<p>(Now is God absolute Reality? I do not know for certain, and in the absence of absolute certainty, I am forced to rely on faith. I do tend to ‘Favor’ that idea, but will give way to a better idea if it should come my way.)</p>
<p><strong>2&gt;  God is energy</strong>, constantly dissolving and reforming. This energy can not be created nor can it be destroyed. It exists only to express itself in new forms.</p>
<p>(Now since energy and matter are interchangeable , they are actually different forms of the same thing, I like this idea too. But is god really energy that has condensed into matter and matter than has dissolved back into energy? I do not know for sure either.)</p>
<p><strong>3&gt; </strong><strong>God is a living being that all things are a part of.</strong></p>
<p>(I like this too.  Its like the knee bone is connected to the thigh bone, and the thigh bone is connected to the foot bone etc. Since I am a living being,  I am part of the earth because I need food and water, The food needs the sun to grow, and gravity to keep the water flowing, the sun needs the rest of the solar system to keep in its proper orbit.  So I can see how I am a part of it all.  Just hold your breath for 5 minutes, you will soon see that you cannot survive for long without air, and air comes from plants. You get the picture?)</p>
<p><strong>4&gt;God was  an alien species</strong>, who were on the way to earth to colonize it. Human beings were  self replicating robots, designed by the aliens,  who were sent to earth in advance., with a mission  to survey the earth and then prepare things for the landing.</p>
<p>The humans sent visual, auditory and other information back to the mother ship with telepathy. Telepathy was  to the aliens what radio is today. The humans were controlled by the aliens also by telepathy. They were directed to different parts of the globe to explore.</p>
<p>However, the mother ship ran into an asteroid and was destroyed. The telepathy link was broken and the humans were left without direction. The humans, however,  were programed to survive,  and since they no longer had  the direction of the alien god species they developed their own self consciousness.</p>
<p>The telepathy mechanism still functions today, and this is why we have people looking up to the sky in search of god. They are waiting for instructions from the mother ship.</p>
<p>( I like this one. It inspires my imagination. Makes me wonder what these gods looked like. But I tend to put less favor on this definition of god. Possible, yes, but likely, no.)</p>
<p>5&gt; I like this too. Neat idea&gt;</p>
<p><a href="http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pantheism/" target="_self">http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pantheism/</a></p>
<h1>Pantheism</h1>
<div id="pubinfo"><em>First published Tue Jun 4, 1996; substantive revision Thu May 17, 2007</em></div>
<p>Pantheism is a metaphysical and religious position. Broadly defined it is the view that (1) &#8220;God is everything and everything is God … the world is either identical with God or in some way a self-expression of his nature&#8221; (Owen 1971: 74). Similarly, it is the view that (2) everything that exists constitutes a &#8220;unity&#8221; and this all-inclusive unity is in some sense divine (MacIntyre 1967: 34). A slightly more specific definition is given by Owen (1971: 65) who says (3) &#8220;‘Pantheism’ … signifies the belief that every existing entity is, only one Being; and that all other forms of reality are either modes (or appearances) of it or identical with it.&#8221; Even with these definitions there is dispute as to just how pantheism is to be understood and who is and is not a pantheist. Aside from Spinoza, other possible pantheists include some of the Presocratics; Plato; Lao Tzu; Plotinus; Schelling; Hegel; Bruno, Eriugena and Tillich. Possible pantheists among literary figures include Emerson, Walt Whitman, D.H. Lawrence, and Robinson Jeffers. Beethoven (Crabbe 1982) and Martha Graham (Kisselgoff 1987) have also been thought to be pantheistic in some of their work — if not pantheists.</p>
<p><strong>God Is Consciousness<br />
</strong></p>
<p>What if god were conscious life itself. It takes awareness to know reality exists at all. A rock can not know it  exists, or can it? Life begets new life. Consciousness begets new consciousness. If god were alive, then you would know god by becoming aware of life itself.</p>
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